Eragon Zarroc · May 20, 2009, 09:08 PM // 21:08

What causes this to happen and how can it be prevented?

Mr. G · May 20, 2009, 09:14 PM // 21:14

Either the file type or the editing program doesnt support alpha channels. alpha channels are used in Gw to represent transparency and shine.

Most "advanced" graphics programs (GIMP, PS etc.) support them, Paint doesnt. Also try a file format like BMP or PNG.

There are ways around this effect but they severaly reduce the quality of the mod. If you ever have any questions or need help with modding feel free to ask - Always happy to help a fellow modder ^^

Eragon Zarroc · May 20, 2009, 09:51 PM // 21:51

lol, was using paint ;-) this one was done in BMP. i'll try PNG i suppose. if that doesn't work, i'll just chalk it up to being paint's fault then ;-)

Mr. G · May 20, 2009, 10:11 PM // 22:11

You cannot use paint with any format. Paint doesnt support the alpha layer. Any bits that should be transparent will apear as solid blocks (like the blades on that armor) and the shine factor will be turned to max. Try GIMP - Totally free.

s t e e · May 20, 2009, 11:45 PM // 23:45

it's Iron man

Qing Guang · May 21, 2009, 12:31 AM // 00:31

Haha I kind of like it. You look like some kind of fish-man.

Eragon Zarroc · May 21, 2009, 12:58 AM // 00:58

i did it using gimp, had the same effect. tried both .png and .bmp, neither had a different effect. any other reasons it is doing this? i know i've seen armor mods before, lol i even tried editing the that bright sheen. all that it did was change it's color, lol.

talon994 · May 21, 2009, 01:15 AM // 01:15

what dye did you use. O.O i want some lol

PvP-Farmer-Chronic · May 21, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34

I really like that haha I want some

Chthon · May 21, 2009, 02:56 AM // 02:56

Use GIMP. Use .dds format. For both ripping from the game, and for editing.

As mentioned above, the problem is that somewhere along the line you're setting the alpha channel to solid white, and that's causing GW to render you texture with 100% reflectivity. You need to preserve the original alpha channel. If you use search, you can find a post by me somewhere explaining how to do that using GIMP.

Luminarus · May 21, 2009, 04:05 AM // 04:05

Reminds me of (i think) necro primeval, or mebbe its ancient. Eitherway, gogo fish armor.

Eragon Zarroc · May 21, 2009, 04:32 AM // 04:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chthon

Use GIMP. Use .dds format. For both ripping from the game, and for editing.

GIMP 2.6 was unable to open .dds format

Chthon · May 21, 2009, 04:41 AM // 04:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

GIMP 2.6 was unable to open .dds format

That's odd. My outdated 2.4.5 has no problem.

MisterB · May 21, 2009, 05:47 AM // 05:47

GIMP .dds plugin

Do you have this plugin for GIMP?

Kiva-chan · May 21, 2009, 05:54 AM // 05:54

When you extract a texture from the game the transparent parts of it, most likely aren't transparent.

If you extract the textures as .tga files, the alpha channels should still be in tact.
So when you edit the image, in addition to the red, green and blue channels there will be an additional channel which 'masks' the transparent areas...

(I understand how it works much better than I can explain how it works as I'm not familiar with the correct terminology.) =P

So, yeah... try using .tga and see how that works.
Unless you plan on changing the shape of a texture, you won't even need to touch the alpha channels...

Mr. G · May 21, 2009, 07:06 AM // 07:06

Quote:

Unless you plan on changing the shape of a texture, you won't even need to touch the alpha channels...

To be fair though if you want a good finished product you'll need to. If you make any major changes to the skin without touching the alpha channel you'll end up with shine where there shouldnt be.

Kiva-chan · May 21, 2009, 07:17 AM // 07:17

Ahh, I've only really played with UI elements so that was never a problem for me =P

Eragon Zarroc · May 21, 2009, 08:03 PM // 20:03

attempted .tga. after airbrushing a blade with red, it came out to be a green sheen, lol. no super sheen all over the armor though. as for the .dds plugin, do i extract that to the gimp plug-in folder or something else? i'm fairly inexperienced with gimp, just downloaded it yesterday ;-)

sykoone · May 22, 2009, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Tga is okay, but for file size you should stick to .dds format. If you work with tga, your final file will end up 4 or 5 times larger than it could be with dds.

May 20, 2009, 09:08 PM // 21:08	#1
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	Texmod on Armor What causes this to happen and how can it be prevented? Last edited by Eragon Zarroc; May 21, 2009 at 02:10 AM // 02:10..

May 21, 2009, 12:58 AM // 00:58	#7
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	i did it using gimp, had the same effect. tried both .png and .bmp, neither had a different effect. any other reasons it is doing this? i know i've seen armor mods before, lol i even tried editing the that bright sheen. all that it did was change it's color, lol. Last edited by Eragon Zarroc; May 21, 2009 at 02:00 AM // 02:00..

May 21, 2009, 05:47 AM // 05:47	#14
MisterB Furnace Stoker Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Planet Earth, Sol system, Milky Way galaxy Guild: [ban] Profession: W/	GIMP .dds plugin Do you have this plugin for GIMP? Last edited by MisterB; May 21, 2009 at 05:59 AM // 05:59..

May 21, 2009, 08:03 PM // 20:03	#18
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	attempted .tga. after airbrushing a blade with red, it came out to be a green sheen, lol. no super sheen all over the armor though. as for the .dds plugin, do i extract that to the gimp plug-in folder or something else? i'm fairly inexperienced with gimp, just downloaded it yesterday ;-) Last edited by Eragon Zarroc; May 21, 2009 at 08:58 PM // 20:58..

May 20, 2009, 09:14 PM // 21:14	#2
Mr. G Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S. Wales Profession: Mo/Me	Either the file type or the editing program doesnt support alpha channels. alpha channels are used in Gw to represent transparency and shine. Most "advanced" graphics programs (GIMP, PS etc.) support them, Paint doesnt. Also try a file format like BMP or PNG. There are ways around this effect but they severaly reduce the quality of the mod. If you ever have any questions or need help with modding feel free to ask - Always happy to help a fellow modder ^^

May 20, 2009, 09:51 PM // 21:51	#3
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	lol, was using paint ;-) this one was done in BMP. i'll try PNG i suppose. if that doesn't work, i'll just chalk it up to being paint's fault then ;-)

May 20, 2009, 10:11 PM // 22:11	#4
Mr. G Desert Nomad Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: S. Wales Profession: Mo/Me	You cannot use paint with any format. Paint doesnt support the alpha layer. Any bits that should be transparent will apear as solid blocks (like the blades on that armor) and the shine factor will be turned to max. Try GIMP - Totally free.

May 20, 2009, 11:45 PM // 23:45	#5
s t e e Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Apr 2009 Guild: Death By[Emo] Profession: Mo/Me	it's Iron man

May 21, 2009, 12:31 AM // 00:31	#6
Qing Guang Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: California Guild: Lucid Spirits [LIFE] Profession: N/A	Haha I kind of like it. You look like some kind of fish-man.

May 21, 2009, 01:15 AM // 01:15	#8
talon994 Wilds Pathfinder Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ontario,Canada Guild: 聖光麒麟 Profession: W/	what dye did you use. O.O i want some lol

May 21, 2009, 01:34 AM // 01:34	#9
PvP-Farmer-Chronic Banned Join Date: May 2009	I really like that haha I want some

May 21, 2009, 02:56 AM // 02:56	#10
Chthon Grotto Attendant Join Date: Apr 2007	Use GIMP. Use .dds format. For both ripping from the game, and for editing. As mentioned above, the problem is that somewhere along the line you're setting the alpha channel to solid white, and that's causing GW to render you texture with 100% reflectivity. You need to preserve the original alpha channel. If you use search, you can find a post by me somewhere explaining how to do that using GIMP.

May 21, 2009, 04:05 AM // 04:05	#11
Luminarus Furnace Stoker Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Guild: Haze of Light [pure] Profession: R/	Reminds me of (i think) necro primeval, or mebbe its ancient. Eitherway, gogo fish armor.

May 21, 2009, 05:54 AM // 05:54	#15
Kiva-chan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2009 Profession: Mo/A	When you extract a texture from the game the transparent parts of it, most likely aren't transparent. If you extract the textures as .tga files, the alpha channels should still be in tact. So when you edit the image, in addition to the red, green and blue channels there will be an additional channel which 'masks' the transparent areas... (I understand how it works much better than I can explain how it works as I'm not familiar with the correct terminology.) =P So, yeah... try using .tga and see how that works. Unless you plan on changing the shape of a texture, you won't even need to touch the alpha channels...

May 21, 2009, 07:17 AM // 07:17	#17
Kiva-chan Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2009 Profession: Mo/A	Ahh, I've only really played with UI elements so that was never a problem for me =P

May 22, 2009, 02:05 AM // 02:05	#19
sykoone Jungle Guide Join Date: Dec 2005 Guild: Mystical Chaos Profession: E/	Tga is okay, but for file size you should stick to .dds format. If you work with tga, your final file will end up 4 or 5 times larger than it could be with dds.